Christian FAIL

Posted at CARM September 2011 (several days). Creationist: Diane S - CARM V.P.

Diane began attacking another member, SOMS for saying that she had become an atheist due to her time spent on CARM.

Keep in mind - this is all written by a self proclaimed CHRISTIAN, and a leader of a Christian Ministry organization. It's slightly amazing, and why I'm no longer a Christian myself.

SOMS, as a side note, is a WONDERFUL and DEAR young woman that is kind to ALL, no matter their religion, or lack thereof. She made a very difficult journey, and I myself am proud to say I helped her along the way. :)

Poster:

Poster: It means that when SOMS wasn't pushed about her beliefs then she was quite happy with them and would most likely have remained a follower of her chosen sect of Christianity. However when she came to CARM she had to question her beliefs and that, as they say, is where the rot set in.

Diane S:

oh please, this person claimed to denounce Christianity before her posts here. This is a borderline troll person with an agenda for attention.
Next she will claim to be wiccan or pagan...
SOMS is A FRAUD with a personality disorder online.......
And yes, I have seen the evidence before these forums opened she was denouncing Christianity.
She is a LIAR, fraud, troll....

Poster:

Those are very strong claims with no concrete evidence - for those of us reading this, have you any evidence for us to believe this apart from your reputation and witness here?

Diane S:

Of course I do or I wouldn't post it. And for the record, opinion does no require evidence though I have already posted much of the evidence, the WORDS of Scripture and her very own words posted here or statements made by others on this forum concerning the supposed "deconversion".

It is my opinion based on what I've read and heard, and witnessed. Ask the person posting here if she claims to have been a Christian and now she is not. I can only say in my opinion she is a liar of denouncing Christ Jesus, denying the Son, because Scripture tells me that person is a liar. I have already posted the verses.

As for other evidence, the trolling and games, have read that as well.

Note that she says "of course I have evidence" but then states "I don't need evidence for an opinion". Then later "it's a fact she didn't". Which is it?

Poster:

From what I've seen of SOMS she is a loving, intelligent, kind HUMAN BEING who has been nothing but honest with others and herself. NO-ONE deserves to be called those kind of names by someone they don't even know, least of all SOMS.

Diane S:

Well, I see the very opposite of the traits you listed, observed on these forums and will say so. Have a problem with that? Too bad....

SOMS finds the post that calls her all manner of rotten things:

I believe this is called libel?
Please...where is such proof? Personality disorder?????

wow....
liar...
fraud...
troll...
wow....

This was very nasty. And very uncalled for.

Diane's response:

Accusations of being libeled/an implied legal threat

Poster suspended.

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Poster:

You say that SOMS didn't deconvert here on CARM. Fine. But you saying she was never really a true Christian is a bit harsh, don't you think?

Another poster:

As Jesus said he would love NONE, there is always the chance then that the faith that SOMS had prior to her 'deconversion' counts for something and that she is not eternally lost. Maybe, just maybe, if there is a resurrection, SOMS will meet the Jesus she knew and loved in her early life and spend eternity with him. Perhaps rather than being a troll and a liar, she is a sister in Christ who has temporarily lost her way.

Diane S:

And perhaps it is time she be publically rebuked and turned over to Satan for discipline and to protect the others she is infecting? If you are correct, she would then have to also be held responsible to the Lord Jesus for all those she harmed along the way in the false teachings she continues to post year after year.

Moving right along - here's a highlight reel of Diane's best Christian posts in this thread.

SOMS (pre banning):
It's MY life, I would know. I have tons of scriptures memorized.

Diane S:
So does Satan.

Diane S:

SOMS, you are a liar, fraud, anti-Christ, read the verse.

"They were never of us"...so we should believe you and not John?

If you are having identity issues, maybe you should seek therapy.

I jump in and say "I walked with SOMS on the Evolution forum when she was still making decisions about her life. We gave her a LOT of advice that helped her make her decision. SOMS is a honest and good person."

Poster (Creationist):

And you expect me to take your word for it?

Poster (atheist):

Are you calling Elf (me) a liar?

Diane S:

I am, yes. Her statement that she 'deconverted on the Evolutionary forums is a LIE.

Notice that no where did I say that - I only mention that we talked a lot about it on the Evolution forums...not that she did it on the forums. But hey - she's far too pissed off at being wrong and getting called out for un-Christian behavior to stop now.

After banning the majority of people that stood up to defend someone that had been slandered, she finished it off with this.

Diane S:

I'll do a webpage myself using her real name and will drag her family in.

Gotta love that good Christian vibe you get from these people.

-Erin