Creationist FAIL of the Day

Platypus FAIL

2012-01-09T15:46:00.000-08:00

Creationist: Twinc

Arguing for science: "Theory of evolution shows us that all animal life is related. Creationists deny it.

The fact that monotremes share mammalian, avian and reptilian characteristics is strong evidence that ToE is correct and is another nail in the coffin of creationism and "intelligent" design."

Twinc: this disproves rather than proves evolution - so everything evolved from the platypus,but what did the platypus evolve from?

headdesk

-Erin

Orbit FAIL

2012-01-04T15:14:00.000-08:00

Creationist: Twinc (another geocentrist)

Scientist: how do geocentrists explain retrograde motion of the planets as they orbit the earth?

Twinc: it was done just to brunt the evolutionists,as also for the sun being created on the fourth day

Planet FAIL

2012-01-03T17:55:00.000-08:00

Creationist: Strangelove

"The earth isn't a planet. Prove it. Prove to me that the earth wanders through space."

Painful, isn't it?

-Erin

200th POST!

2011-12-13T16:24:00.001-08:00

Creationist: Nouveau

He gets the prize for the 200th Fail of the Day! The odds were good that he'd be the one to do it. :)

Recap: Evolutionists can't explain bird migration. Why?

God tells the birds where to go. They follow instructions and arrive alive.

Yeah. He went there.

-Erin

Grass FAIL

2011-11-16T14:19:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on November 16th, 2011. Creationist: FormerlySaul

Cows will step over hay to get to grass, if left unmanipulated, cows eat grass yet produce milk, butter, cream etc and the greatest, a calf.. all from grass which has little if any nutritional value. Can you evo's explain how milk, butter, cream and yes even a calf are all created from just grass?

This guy doesn't know where babies come from - or that the byproduct of an animal doesn't have anything much to do with what they eat.

-Erin

Oral FAIL

2011-10-31T09:57:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 30th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau.

OP made by another Creationist (Mustang47): (paraphrased)
Hey Darwinists, give me evidence for evolution and then tell me why I should believe it instead of the infallible word of God.

Nouveau:

It depends on what they call "science". Their oral traditions is blindness to observation.

There's nothing more believable that two people in a garden condemning humanity because someone ate some fruit when they got tricked by a talking snake.

-Erin

Classification FAIL

2011-10-27T15:58:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 27th, 2011. Creationist: Winner/Winfield

Scientist:

Are Chimps and Gorillas apes?

Winner/Winfield:

Apes in a sense that they had some similarities as we define apes.

Scientist:

Like what?

Winner/Winfield:

They had both feet, head, mouth, etc...

So...my friends cat: she's an ape. And so is my friends bird. And so is my brother. *facepalm*

-Erin

Astronomy FAIL

2011-10-27T14:43:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 26th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau.

Nouveau is logging a LOT of hours on CARM...and he's fairly retarded when it comes to science. So...here's yet another example.

What does astrology or even astronomy do to explain a long necked giraffe.
Do these astrologers read stars and see that as adding info to the genome?

Yikes. This is in response to a rebuttal of their concept of Creation of a young universe 6,000 years ago...not evolution. Clearly. Good to know he still can't read.

-Erin

backbone FAIL

2011-10-25T20:09:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 25th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau

Did apes have a backbone or did they have vertabrae?

Yup. He just asked that.

-Erin

Pottery FAIL

2011-10-25T10:17:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 25th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau

pottery has been around a long time. The early evos sacrificed to the gods of Molech. Firstborn stuffed into an urn or large pot and sacrificed. Today we have abortion from the evo movement. Pottery shows a history of false religions.

Umm...evolutionary science was around with the Phoenicians? Huh...didn't know that. And I didn't know pottery is evidence for a false religion. Tool.

-Erin

Terrestrial FAIL

2011-10-21T14:20:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 21st, 2011 (Rapture day). Creationist: Mustang47

"Evos expect people to believe their lies. they also expect me to believe that terrestrial fish walked on land."

How dare we suggest that terrestrial animals walked on land. HOW DARE WE?!

-Erin

Lung FAIL

2011-10-12T14:11:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 11th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau.

I am waiting to see footprints from fishies that have newly formed legs and lungs. Another implicit evo hoax.

My response: Lungs don't make footprints.

-Erin

Hate 101

2011-09-28T14:18:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on Sept 28th, 2011. Creationist: SuperSport.

Have you always wanted to learn how to hate other people as best as possible? Look no farther than your local Young Earth Creationist!

It is not an "attack" to call a baby-killing atheist a baby-killing atheist. Anyone who votes people in office who actively promote or enable killing babies is essentially a baby killer in my book, just as an accomplice to a murder is a murderer.

As far as the whole gay thing goes, I don't, and have never "harrassed" them....I would certainly never try to injure or harm them physically, as insinuated in the OP...........but it is clear that homosexuals are becoming a plague on society. They are overwhelmingly a disease-infested and disease-spreading group of people, which pose a great health threat on the general population. And like their parent group, the atheists, they are basically just a cancer on the human race....they don't do anything constructive, they're not good parents, they're not good role-models, they're not good citizens, and they're not even good representatives of their own gender. Gay men act, talk, walk and dress like 13 year old girls and gay women act, talk, walk and dress like 13 year old boys. This is a highly depressed, highly confused, highly disease-ridden, highly drug-addicted group that needs to have their own gay community out on some deserted island where they can't corrupt and infect the rest of the population with their demented morality and myriad of diseases. The world was a better place when homosexuality was illegal and kept only in dark closets.

Don't you just feel the brotherly love and the spirit of Christ? I know I do.

-Erin

Majority FAIL

2011-09-28T10:51:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on Spetember 27th, 2011. Creationist: Diane S

When voted on by the majority, it is still NOT the position of the people.

Really? Seems like...a majority of the people is the position of the people. That's how we get presidents, right? Wait....

-Erin

Gene FAIL

2011-09-28T10:45:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on Sept 27th, 2011. Creationist: supersport.

I've noticed that the atheist gene very often accompanies the gay gene, the transexual gene, the evolutionist gene, the drunkard gene, the depression gene, and the drug-addict gene.

Someone doesn't know that genes aren't a kind of pants.

-Erin

Vaccine FAIL

2011-09-22T16:58:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on Sept 22nd, 2011. Creationist: SuperSport

Posted in response to this article:

Rambunctious one-year-old Teco, a third-generation captive-born bonobo at the Great Ape Trust in Des Moines, Iowa, has an ape’s usual fondness for games and grapes. But perhaps because of trauma from a difficult birth (his mother was in labor for 60 hours) or a genetic predisposition, Teco is different from his bonobo peers in ways that resemble autism in young children. He could not cling to his mother or nurse the way healthy young apes do instinctively, mimicking the aversion to physical contact seen in children with autism. Teco also tends to fixate on shiny objects and avoids eye contact, and he has trouble coordinating his four limbs

Supersport:

Congratulations evos! Your vaccinations are doing the same things in zoo apes as they are in humans; screwing them up. Before long the zoo apes will start turning gay, acting obnoxious, angry, smoking, doing drugs and coming down with a variety of health issues, etc....basically acting like miniature ape-versions of Christopher Hitchens.

Hey evos....it may be that your vaccinations need to be updated....it's probably about time to load yourself up with a bunch of toxic chemicals....oh...and don't forget to take your flu shots...(you'll need several this year.)

When asked to present evidence that 1) vaccinations cause autism and 2) that this bonobo was given vaccinations, he had this to say.

Supersport:

Vaccination of zoo carnivores is essential because of their susceptibility to various diseases such as feline panleukopenia, feline rhinotracheitis, feline calicivirus, rabies, canine distemper, and canine parvovirus.

Umm...1) Bonobos aren't carnivores. 2) these are vaccinations for FELINES and CANINES...neither of which family do chimpanzees/bonobos fall under. IDIOT!

-Erin

Soup FAIL

2011-09-22T10:10:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on September 21st, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau.

Nouveau: (in response to "how could plants survive the Flood?"

These evos say life originated from the primordial soup and they flip flop and say the same soup would kill plant life.

Riiiiiiight.

-Erin

Plant FAIL

2011-09-22T10:03:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on September 21st, 2011. Creationists Paul Solberg and Nouveau.

Paul:

I'm a YEC. I'm curious to know why plants could not have survived the Great Flood. The Bible says that after the Ark touched down in the mountains of Ararat a bird was let loose and returned with an olive leaf. Any thoughts?

Nouveau:

Plants can survive. God destroyed life in animals that breathed.

Of course. That's a great explanation. :P

-Erin

Christian FAIL

2011-09-21T15:17:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM September 2011 (several days). Creationist: Diane S - CARM V.P.

Diane began attacking another member, SOMS for saying that she had become an atheist due to her time spent on CARM.

Keep in mind - this is all written by a self proclaimed CHRISTIAN, and a leader of a Christian Ministry organization. It's slightly amazing, and why I'm no longer a Christian myself.

SOMS, as a side note, is a WONDERFUL and DEAR young woman that is kind to ALL, no matter their religion, or lack thereof. She made a very difficult journey, and I myself am proud to say I helped her along the way. :)

Poster:

Poster: It means that when SOMS wasn't pushed about her beliefs then she was quite happy with them and would most likely have remained a follower of her chosen sect of Christianity. However when she came to CARM she had to question her beliefs and that, as they say, is where the rot set in.

Diane S:

oh please, this person claimed to denounce Christianity before her posts here. This is a borderline troll person with an agenda for attention.
Next she will claim to be wiccan or pagan...
SOMS is A FRAUD with a personality disorder online.......
And yes, I have seen the evidence before these forums opened she was denouncing Christianity.
She is a LIAR, fraud, troll....

Poster:

Those are very strong claims with no concrete evidence - for those of us reading this, have you any evidence for us to believe this apart from your reputation and witness here?

Diane S:

Of course I do or I wouldn't post it. And for the record, opinion does no require evidence though I have already posted much of the evidence, the WORDS of Scripture and her very own words posted here or statements made by others on this forum concerning the supposed "deconversion".

It is my opinion based on what I've read and heard, and witnessed. Ask the person posting here if she claims to have been a Christian and now she is not. I can only say in my opinion she is a liar of denouncing Christ Jesus, denying the Son, because Scripture tells me that person is a liar. I have already posted the verses.

As for other evidence, the trolling and games, have read that as well.

Note that she says "of course I have evidence" but then states "I don't need evidence for an opinion". Then later "it's a fact she didn't". Which is it?

Poster:

From what I've seen of SOMS she is a loving, intelligent, kind HUMAN BEING who has been nothing but honest with others and herself. NO-ONE deserves to be called those kind of names by someone they don't even know, least of all SOMS.

Diane S:

Well, I see the very opposite of the traits you listed, observed on these forums and will say so. Have a problem with that? Too bad....

SOMS finds the post that calls her all manner of rotten things:

I believe this is called libel?
Please...where is such proof? Personality disorder?????

wow....
liar...
fraud...
troll...
wow....

This was very nasty. And very uncalled for.

Diane's response:

Accusations of being libeled/an implied legal threat

Poster suspended.

Moderators/Managers/Admin may ban someone if they even suspect that the person is trying to cause trouble in any way. No explanations are needed. If you don't like it, don't register. Any LEGAL THREATS to CARM or the CARM users will result in immediate banning of all parties involved.

Poster:

You say that SOMS didn't deconvert here on CARM. Fine. But you saying she was never really a true Christian is a bit harsh, don't you think?

Another poster:

As Jesus said he would love NONE, there is always the chance then that the faith that SOMS had prior to her 'deconversion' counts for something and that she is not eternally lost. Maybe, just maybe, if there is a resurrection, SOMS will meet the Jesus she knew and loved in her early life and spend eternity with him. Perhaps rather than being a troll and a liar, she is a sister in Christ who has temporarily lost her way.

Diane S:

And perhaps it is time she be publically rebuked and turned over to Satan for discipline and to protect the others she is infecting? If you are correct, she would then have to also be held responsible to the Lord Jesus for all those she harmed along the way in the false teachings she continues to post year after year.

Moving right along - here's a highlight reel of Diane's best Christian posts in this thread.

SOMS (pre banning):
It's MY life, I would know. I have tons of scriptures memorized.

Diane S:
So does Satan.

Diane S:

SOMS, you are a liar, fraud, anti-Christ, read the verse.

"They were never of us"...so we should believe you and not John?

If you are having identity issues, maybe you should seek therapy.

I jump in and say "I walked with SOMS on the Evolution forum when she was still making decisions about her life. We gave her a LOT of advice that helped her make her decision. SOMS is a honest and good person."

Poster (Creationist):

And you expect me to take your word for it?

Poster (atheist):

Are you calling Elf (me) a liar?

Diane S:

I am, yes. Her statement that she 'deconverted on the Evolutionary forums is a LIE.

Notice that no where did I say that - I only mention that we talked a lot about it on the Evolution forums...not that she did it on the forums. But hey - she's far too pissed off at being wrong and getting called out for un-Christian behavior to stop now.

After banning the majority of people that stood up to defend someone that had been slandered, she finished it off with this.

Diane S:

I'll do a webpage myself using her real name and will drag her family in.

Gotta love that good Christian vibe you get from these people.

-Erin

Homophobia

2011-09-18T18:43:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on September 15th, 2011. Creationist: System1970

If I go to a foreign country, I try to dress and behave appropriately so as not to offend the local population. Gay people should behave likewise. It's fine if they flash their gayness everywhere when they are among their own kind, but when around normal people they should be more polite.

When they're around their own kind? Seriously? They're not a different species...we ARE their own kind. Friggin retards.

-Erin

Chimp FAIL

2011-09-17T18:31:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on September 16th, 2011. Creationist: Marke

What selective pressures led or made some chimps turn into humans while leaving others remaining the same?

My brain just shuts down halfway through.

-Erin

Complete FAIL

2011-09-12T14:08:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on September 11th, 2011. Creationist: A Dam.

Post:

The evidence shows that AIDS is highest among heterosexual women in Africa.

A Dam:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, d**ned lies, and statistics. Those women gave it to themselves, in fact, it originated by them giving it to themselves. Science is one of those awkward events that speaks loudly, carries a big stick, and then it goes flaccid.

WHAT?! It's been a long time since one of them could make my jaw hit my desk and my eyes pop out...but SERIOUSLY?!

-Erin

Digit FAIL

2011-09-08T09:14:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on September 7th, 2011. Creationist: Robert Byers

(In response to an article on birds fingers and how the first finger on a bird is indeed the thumb)

first there is no such thing as digits. There is just a need of bodies to have flexible protruding bones for different important needs. Birds just have them too. There is no reason to see any evolution of this digit into that.

Sometimes it just hurts too much to try and figure out what they were thinking.

-Erin

Ear FAIL

2011-09-06T18:35:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on Sept 6th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau.

"Its not our fault all the evidence is on our side and the points we make are therefore so telling . . . such as the fact that you have ear wiggling muscles, inherited from a species that could actually wiggle their ears . . ."

Nouveau's response:

Have you seen a lobster wiggle its ears?

Face meet palm.

All Around FAIL!

2011-08-25T15:37:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 25th, 2011. Creationist: wiseones2cents

Just curious.Would you say that Orangutangs and red heads share a common species?

OMG! THE STUPID BURNS!

-Erin

Ancestor FAIL

2011-08-25T14:48:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 25th, 2011. Creationist: wiseones2cents

Statement:

There is no evidence that humans and dinosaurs lived together.

Wise:

Are you saying that the common ancestor of chimps and humans did not exist and it evolved from the water?

Huh?! No! Not even close!

-Erin

Retrovirus FAIL

2011-08-24T09:38:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 24th, 2011. Creationist: winfield

If both chimps and humans had the same retroviruses, of the same location, then, we can conclude that the viruses had attacked both chimps and humans on the same time and place. Therefore, those so called ancestors were not actually existing and [theory of evolution] is wrong.

The odds of that happening are actually LESS than this idiot accepting evidence for evolution.

-Erin

Earth Fail

2011-08-23T17:24:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 23rd, 2011. Creationist: Caius

More gravity=faster time. Gravity is greatest at the surface, and goes to zero at the center of the Earth. Likewise, if the Earth is the center of the universe, gravity would be greatest at the edge of the universe and the least at the center, where the Earth is. The result is that light could travel billions of light-years from the edge of the universe and get here in just thousands of Earth years.

The Atheist's rebuttal is to assume that the Earth isn't the center of the universe.

Ever heard of NASA? Didn't think so.

-Erin

Crater FAIL

2011-08-19T23:17:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 19th, 2011. Creationist: Supersport.

so if a crater hit the earth today would it be fair and accurate to date the crater by dating the rocks nearby?

What? Craters don't fall from the sky.

-Erin

Photography FAIL

2011-08-06T10:04:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 6th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau.

His reply is after someone posted a picture of a dinosaur bone.

Thanks for posting pics of the present. Why are you unwilling to post pics of "millions of years ago"?

You don't want to admit they may not look like you want them to.

Yes - he did just suggest that there were people and cameras around in the Mesozoic.

-Erin

Crusades FAIL

2011-07-21T12:25:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on July 20th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau

Hard line atheism.
The crusades and dark ages are back.

So...atheists were responsible for the crusades and dark ages? Didn't know that.

-Erin

Bird FAIL

2011-07-10T20:46:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on July 8th, 2011. Creationist: Supersport

Me: Yes, dinosaurs were warm-blooded. Can this stop being a controversy? I mean...all evidence points to warm-bloodedness, akin or MORE than that of some mammals. So...why do some people still call this a controversy?

Sport: scales, egg-laying....makes sense :/..........so why aren't birds warm-blooded?....you know, since they evolved from dinos? yea yea...I know...darwinian magic..."just because" whatever, right?

BWA HA HA HA! HA HA!

-Erin

Biology FAIL

2011-06-30T14:42:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on June 30th, 2011. Creationist: Supersport

Right after posting this:

No, I'm not an expert in anything. I hated biology class in HS, so I would never try to pass myself off as an authority or anything like that. like a good evo, you've pegged me wrong. All I do is ask questions, and wonder why the evos, in the name of science, can't answer them.

He posts this:

any interest or knowledge of biology is not needed in a discussion of evolution. Nothing a biologist or geneticist sees in the field or under a microscope has anything to do with evolution. evolution and biology are completely different subjects. One is a "hard" science of observation, the other is a "soft" pseudo-science found nowhere but the mind of a fanatical and ideological dreamer. No matter how much knowledge or insight one might have in biology, nothing can combat or change the mind of the pseudo-scientific dreamer.

So THAT'S why they call it evolutionary biology. Because it has nothing to do with evolution. I get it. :P

-Erin

Wormholes Lead to Heaven

2011-06-29T12:44:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on June 29th, 2011. Creationist: Dad.

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...le_graphic.jpg

"Wormholes arise as solutions to the equations of Einstein's general theory of relativity. In fact, they crop up so readily in this context that some theorists are encouraged to think that real counterparts may eventually be found or fabricated and, perhaps, used for high-speed space travel and/or time travel. However, a known property of wormholes is that they are highly unstable and would probably collapse instantly if even the tiniest amount of matter, such as a single photon, attempted to pass through them. A possible way around this problem is the use of exotic matter to prevent the wormhole from pinching off."

Dad:
Physical science only knows an earth zone style physical 'universe'. Therefore their theories are limited. The concept of a door to another 'universe' however is also found in God's word. Using not strange or exotic matter that is a kissing cousin of the physical only realm, but spiritual forces, such holes are known to be opened. Such doors are a matter of record and fact.

I glanced at a site where they were stuggling with the basic concept, and found a lot of great thoughts and verses, although of course far different conclusions.

I used to lean toward a partial canopy as the source of flood water. I now lean toward the waters coming from outside what we think of as space.

What does the bible say!?

Ge 7:11 - In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Ge 8:2 - The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;

So, we have in creation week, the waters above the expanse or firmament, and the waters on earth, below. In the expanse were the stars and sun and moon.

A door or window to the third heavens was opened then, apparently.

Many other times is the doors or windows of heaven referred to also.

Examples: ....

Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

Mal 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Psa 78:23 Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened the doors of heaven, 24 And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven.

Ezekiel 1:1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.

Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

Luke 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Since we do not know what space (the second heavens) really is far away, we cannot know distances to stars, or sizes, etc. Knowing that space may be a LOT smaller makes heaven seem a lot closer. And it is amazing that man can have and has had a direct connection to the abode of the Almighty!!!

Real science can be so interesting.

Wow. So...wormholes go...to heaven. Gotcha. No...no. Not crazy and without any evidence at all.

-Erin

Perfection FAIL

2011-05-31T09:06:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on May 30th, 2011. Creationist: wScott

Evolutionists don't live perfect lives, so how can their theory possibly be true?

Wow...so...Creationists are perfect therefore their misunderstanding of the world around them is perfect? Okay then...

-Erin

Speed of Light FAIL

2011-05-30T09:28:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on May 29th, 2011. Creationist: Sinsanri/Dakotat5

Distant starlight is based upon the assumption of measuring the unmeasurable and that the unbeliever got it correct and that theory of the speed of light is actually accurate. Keep in miind that there are no yardstick markers in space thus any measurement is based upon fallible opinion.

The stupid...it burns.

-Erin

Grasshoppers FAIL

2011-04-18T21:10:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on APril 18th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau

ME (Mountaineer_Elf):

Leviticus 11:20-22 states that grasshoppers are four-legged flying beasts that we are allowed to eat.

So my question is this to all the Biblical Literalists out there: are grasshoppers quadrupeds? Because according to the Bible...they are.

Nouveau:

The Lord will provide exceedingly abundantly above what we ask or think. God has blessed many grasshoppers with more than 4 legs.

Yeah. That's what he went with.

-Erin

Religion 101

2011-04-07T09:25:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 6th, 2011. Creationist: Dakotat5/Sinsanri

Non-Creationist:

As far as I know, NASA and science has not yet rejected the possibility that life may have evolved on Mars in earlier times, when it had more water and probably more atmosphere. Do you have some inside knowledge?

Life on other planets in our solar system may also be possible, but perhaps not probable. The evidence for planets around other stars is growing, but we do not yet have technology to detect earth-sized planets at about the right distance from their sum to support earth-like life. Again, what makes you so certain of your conclusion?

Dakotat5/Sinsanri:

Who cares? If it doesn't agree with the Bible then it is wrong.

And that is the true mentality of Creationists. If it doesn't agree with the Bible, then it's wrong. Like heliocentricism, deep time, and six-legged grasshoppers.

-Erin

Geocentricism FAIL

2011-04-07T09:06:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 7th, 2011. Creationist: Strangelove

Scientist:

And just when we thought the denial of reality and abject religious lunacy in here had reached its peak, along comes a bona fide modern geocentrist into the fray.

Strangelove:

Jump in the air.

Did you land in a different spot?

No.

So you saying the Earth spins on its axis is denying reality.

HOORAY STUPIDITY!

Earth FAIL

2011-04-06T15:48:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 6th, 2011. Creationist: Strangelove

NEWSFLASH

The Earth doesn't move.

Which pretty much blows evolution out of the water.

Response: Huh?

You heard me. The Earth does not spin on its axis neither does it orbit the sun.

Biblical and scientific Geocentrism budski.

Educate yourself.

Yeah. WE'RE the problems with education here.

-Erin

Person FAIL

2011-04-05T19:47:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 5th, 2011. Creationist: Dakotat5/Sinsanri

There is an honest creation apologist. It's called the Bible.

I wasn't aware that the Bible was a person. Huh.

-Erin

Marine Biologist FAIL

2011-03-07T13:48:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on March 7th, 2011. Creationist: Mustang47

Thread created by Mustang at me - Mountaineer_elf (he calls me mountain elf).

"Mountain elf is a marine biologist by trade. So, mountain elf, do you think you can answer this question?

Why have no mutations been found that increase information content?"

Umm...hey Musty. You know that genetics and evolutionary biology are NOT marine biology, right?

-Erin

Meteorite Bacterium FAIL

2011-03-06T19:30:00.001-08:00

Posted at CARM on March 6th, 2011. Creationist: Nouveau

In this "major" discovery, the scientist Hoover claims that these bacteria are from outer space but look a lot like those on earth.

Uhh, those meteors were ejected from earth in a cataclysm involving huge amounts of water, blasting ejecta toward the four corners of the solar system.

Of course they look like they are from earth.

BWA HA HA! What...did they wrap back around?!

-Erin

Spot FAIL

2011-02-25T12:46:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Feb 23rd 2011. Creationist: Dakotat5

OP: How did the leopard get its spots? How did the zebra get its stripes?

The answer may be a gene, which scientists have found governs colour patterns in deer mice, the most widespread mammal in North America.

This gene, called Agouti, is found in all vertebrates and may establish colour pattern in a wide variety of species, a process that has been poorly understood at both the molecular and the evolutionary level.

Dakotat5: if it were the gene alone and if evolution were true then everyone would have spots.

-Erin

Shallow Time Fail

2011-02-24T15:50:00.001-08:00

Posted at CARM on Feb 23rd, 2011. Creationist: Dakotat5

"you can no more look 7 million years into the past than you can look into last week"

Wait....huh?

-Erin

Finally Offended by a YEC

2011-02-13T20:51:00.000-08:00

I have finally been personally offended by a young earth creationist. Here's the exchange.

dakotat5 (creationist)
Mountaineer_Elf (me)

dakotat5: just give a simple answer like 'i would' or 'I wouldn't' no need for a song and dance or a bashing party. let's see how honest you really are or if you will lie here as well.

HOW many evolutionists, et al, would die for their belief in evolution?

you are surrounded by an angry mob who are going to light you up if you do not renounce your evolutionary beliefs. would you die for evolution?

{i am betting most of them will lie}

Mountaineer_Elf: If someone put a gun to a random persons head and said "say there's no evolution or I'll shoot her" I will gladly say "there is no evolution" and do so quickly and without thought.

Why? Because it has no bearing on the fact that evolution does exist - it doesn't need my permission.

It's not a belief - it's an acceptance in the evidence and data that supports it.

If someone put a gun to my head and said to you "deny God or I will kill her", what would you say?

dakotat5: figures the woman would alter the question. it is not asking if a friend or stranger were being threatened but if you were. try to stick to the topic and do it right.

i would say shoot her.

Mountaineer_Elf: Wow - I suppose I should just jump back into the kitchen and get your dinner for you huh? Maybe make and have a baby on the way while attempting to vacuum with the handle in my mouth and burning my hands on the stove while baking bread.

Nice to know you don't value life though. Thanks for that. I hope I'm never in a situation where it's up to you to lie to someone to save my life.

I've never been offended by a young earth creationist before - it's usually just something along the lines of "oh, you know - that's how they are. They're a YEC, you know?" Or "oh grandma, you're so silly" when an old fashioned person says something racist or uncouth, etc.

Congrats on being the first YEC that's actually personally offended me on this website. Consider your post reported, though nothing will happen per usual.

-Erin

ETA: I did misread your post, thinking it was two questions: "would you die for your belief in evolution" as well as "would you let someone die because you didn't renounce your belief in evolution".

Look - I admitted I made a mistake dakotat5. Must be the woman in me.

Good Christian, eh?

-Erin

Just....FAIL

2011-02-10T21:52:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Feb 10th, 2011. Creationist: Win.

What I'm asking is that: why death is possible if replication is the process? Why not continuing replication? Why nature limits it? The rock doesn't replicate, so it must have a limitation of survival.

*facepalm*

-Erin

Foot FAIL

2011-02-10T13:18:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Feb 10th, 2011. Creationist: Noob.

The short version: My post was about the discovery of a uniquely shaped metatarsal of A. afarensis which shows that the foot at the metatarsals had an arch to it, suggesting that Lucy and the other A. afarensis' were more bipedal than originally thought.

Noob: Evos are turbo super stupid regarding human anatomy. Foot bone. Feet consist of many bones.

Idiot.

-Erin

Deserving FAIL

2011-02-08T17:41:00.001-08:00

Passed on to me by DM on Feb 8th, 2011.

Reag: "I usually limit my comments to the Biblical ideas of helping deserving poor (which the Bible calls "widows and orphans"), and letting the undeserving poor starve as a motivation to change."

Wow. The image that came to mind was the starving children of Africa that aren't widows or orphans.

-Erin

Fluid Dynamics FAIL

2011-02-07T12:14:00.001-08:00

Posted at CARM on Feb 6th, 2011. Creationist: Noob

Evos can't take science appart and tell me how studying fluid dynamics in physics is aided by understanding mutations happen and species die.

Wow - really?

-Erin

Lack of Understanding

2011-01-31T13:34:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Aug 29th, 2010. Creationist: Eek.

Comment: (based on a paper written about Neanderthals having autism or being responsible for autism in modern-day populations)

"the guy (the author of the paper) has no idea what he talking about, SAD is a seasonal form of depression, it has no relation to hibernation, no known ape species hibernates, they don't need to. this is just poor speculation and conclusions from poor speculation.
he has a list of sources but he doesn't appear to have read them."

Eek: Just because you have no idea what he is talking about, doesn't mean he doesn't!

I love a good double negative in the afternoon - don't you? I also love a good "whoosh" moment. As in right over this posters head.

-Erin

Neanderthal FAIL

2011-01-31T13:29:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Aug 30th, 2010. Creationist: Eek

Comment: "There is no way to know whether or not neanderthals had autism."

Eek: "LOL! There is no way to know evolution happened, either. We can gather how they acted by the environment in which they lived. Most likely they would resemble people who have autism and aspergers syndrome."

Is this poster saying that all Neanderthals had autism due to the morphology of their skull? *facepalm*

-Erin

Harassment FAIL

2011-01-31T12:56:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Jan 29th, 2011. Creationist: Eek

Comment: How dare I comment on what you have said in a public forum? You don't like it? Don't post in a public forum.

Gae: Yeah that is how evos do it: they goad people by asking personal questions about their feelings meanwhile saying "get a grip" and other harrassment, and then post it all on a blog with comments they can't get away with here.

YOU get a grip!

Don't like it? Stop being stupid. "Get a grip" isn't harassment...it's something that poster needs to do.

-Erin

Placental FAIL

2011-01-28T17:14:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Jan 28th, 2011. Creationist: RB.

Marsupials are just placentals with pouches

-Erin

First FAIL of 2011

2011-01-18T13:06:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Jan 18th, 2011. Creationist: Noob

"Teaching evolution in schools increases global warming"

Wow. Sometimes the stupid burns, huh?

-Erin

Existence FAIL

2010-12-27T12:16:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Dec 26th, 2010. Creationist: Vou.

Evos say the geneology between Jesus and Adam is not valid. Darwins geneology is also not valid.

It is not to be taken litterally.

His argument is this: can you actually prove Darwin existed? NO...you can't. *facepalm*

-Erin

Fossil FAIL

2010-11-15T17:15:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on November 11th, 2010. Creationist: C4

C4: YOU are the one guilty of 'scientism' blind one. You aren't even close to scientific truth. What are you going to do when geologists dig up a T-Rex out of 70 million yr old rock and it is discovered that it has a human in its belly?

That day is coming.

Oh is it now? Bwa ha ha ha!

-Erin

Star FAIL

2010-10-15T12:20:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 14th, 2010. Creationist: Dad.

Here is a series of posts by Dad. Just...read and enjoy.

Stars will fall to earth. Says the bible. A third of them. How big could they be??

Mt 24:29 -Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Re 6:13 -And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Re 12:4 -And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth

how big could they really be if they fall to earth?

(In response to "you don't know what a star is): Why don't you tell us then, and give an example of one a million ly or more away?

If stars are composed of more than, or other than physical only material, your scenario is trashed. How many little demons falling to earth would boil the seas??

Someone responds. Here are Dad's replies to the post.

"Stars show distinctive gravitational effects, and we can look at their composition from a distance"

Example of these 'gravitational' effects? You guys are one piece of work, Hawking credits present gravity with no less than creation.

"Like our own sun, they are composed of a great amount of matter, much of it in a plasma state."

Let's see the evidence for that claim. Story telling.

"Both their mass and energy output can be measured quite well, and of course their distance with different tools."

great, so measure all that for Alpha Centauri.

"Even assuming a bare minimum in size - and with marble-mass stars i'm being incredibly intensely careful - you're talking about an incredible event. Actual stars of any size falling on earth is really not worth calculating, since any single one would destroy the planet many times over already."

False. Not if they are not physical.

Alrighty then. Chalk up Astronomy as another scientific discipline that most YEC's don't know JACK about.

-Erin

WARNING - Agenda WORSE than Atheist's!

2010-10-14T15:47:00.001-07:00

Every action these days is agenda based, everyone knows that. When an atheist is talking about freedom from religion - you know they're peddling their agenda and attempting to rule the world. Let's not even get into the Gay Agenda or the Left Agenda.

Why has no one mentioned or questioned the Dino Agenda? Everyone knows that avian dinosaurs (birds) were imparted with the Dino Agenda at the end of the Cretaceous Period. Right? You haven't? Well, allow me to educate you.

In layman terms it's a branch off of the Evolutionist Agenda located somewhere on the left side of the Agendosphere, as placed by the right wing Agenda Signer Squad, also known as the A.S.S..

Shrouded in secrecy since the Maastrichtian, where the first organized mammals split into left wing/right wing societies which caused the dinosaurs some concern, little has leaked out about the Agenda they subsequently created. Whispers through Area 51 and secret military bases have made their way onto conspiracy theory websites and forums, the informants usually found some days later with what appears to be an abnormal amount of pecking and talon-tearing around the eyes, ears and mouth - clearly a symbolic killing from the avian descendants of the original Dino Agenda creators that signifies "you were too close to the truth".

Here's what I know of this "Dino Agenda". Know that I am risking my very LIFE to inform you of this new threat to our security and our future.

It's interpreted to suggest that some time in the future, likely around the close of the year 2012, dinosaurs will have been so entrenched in the education system through the study of fossilization in the lower grades and the subsequent paleontologists and geologists that will arise from a passion implanted at such a young age that the process of finding and studying fossils will have, for more than 200 years, kept the higher functioning mammals busy and distracted. Distracted enough for them not to notice that the 2012 presidential candidate will be 1/1,999th theropoda.

Once placed into office, the new president will reinstate the descendants of the dinosaurs (birds) as the leaders of the country and eventually the world, causing a rise of non-avian dinosaur uprisings across the globe. Ruling the planet like their ancestors, they will finally strip the mammals of their status that they had become far too prideful of in the last 65 million years.

So you see that there is some concern over this "Dino Agenda". It may indeed surpass the Gay Agenda and Atheist Agenda combined. Let us unite against the some odd 9,000-10,000 species of Dino Agenda descendants and supporters and put a STOP to the education of prehistoric life in the lower grades around the world. YOU TOO can help this cause!

Donate now.

-Erin

Pwn FAIL

2010-10-07T13:09:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 7th, 2010. Creationist: Eag.

She is displaying her misunderstanding and refusal to correct interpretation of the gamer word Pwn, or pwned (sometimes pwn3d).

Eag: Pawn is a legitimate spelling of pwn. Makes more sense too.

NO IT'S NOT! GAH! THE STUPIDITY!

-Erin

Weather FAIL

2010-10-05T14:17:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on OCtober 5th, 2010. Creationist: Sport.

Topic: the weather cycle and whether or not it requires prayer for it to rain/snow.

Atheist: we have a pretty good grip on the weather by now - no miracles involved.

Sport: oh really. start at the sub atomic particles in the sky and work up. you can also explain to me how the water evaporates and forms clouds. I'd like to hear this.

Didn't Mrs. Jones in the 3rd grade teach you about the water cycle?

-Erin

Heredity FAIL

2010-09-21T16:51:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on Sept 21st - 2010. Creationist: Fundy

Hereditary baggage is not evolution.

Yes...yes it is. Traits and heritable ones at that are VERY MUCH biological evolution.

-Erin

Grand Canyon FAIL

2010-08-11T17:20:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 4th, 2010. Creationist RB.

RB: The GC is just sedimentary rock anyways.

Me: Negative - there are igneous intrusions at the GC seen at the bottom of the canyon.

RB: Rock type is irrelevant. The processes are the same except for very hard or very soft.

So...it's irrelevantif formed through erosion of harder rocks into layers of softer material or if it formed through the volcanic eruption of magma onto the surface. Yeah - that sounds like the same processes to me.

-Erin

Sex FAIL

2010-08-07T18:11:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 7th, 2010. Creationist: SuperSport.

SuperSport: We tell our kids that God created them through our love.

RJ: However, when it comes to the actual biology of conception, I hope you go beyond that. Or don't you believe in sperm and egg either?

SuperSport: eh...the sperm and the egg aren't really important.

Oh really? No comment.

-Erin

Gay Marriage FAIL

2010-08-07T17:45:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM in the chat room. Creationist: B. Topic: same-sex marriage. Mountaineer_Elf is me.

[Bahama] Mountaineer_Elf then i am being discriminated because of my beliefs
[Mountaineer_Elf] bahama: lol!
[Mountaineer_Elf] I actually laughed out loud at that one!
[Mountaineer_Elf] that was good
[Bahama] in some sense its true
[Mountaineer_Elf] I'm gonna save it.
[Bahama] think about it
[Mountaineer_Elf] bahama in NO sense does some one in Connecticut marrying their same sex partner discriminate you because of your religion. ha ha ha
[Bahama] im being discriminated because i cant enforce my views on the public society in a democratic system to uphold laws

That's not descrimination, nerd. Democratic society means you don't have your right to FORCE your view. But you can have one. Nerd.

-Erin

Cover-up FAIL

2010-08-05T09:36:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 3rd, 2010. Creationist (?): Eag

This guy's thread is a DOOZY. There may be SEVERAL posts from him today here at the fail of the day.

All evolutionists are part of the cover up. It is not God they are covering up, it is ET's. That is the real reason behind the show between creationism and evolution. They are actually OK with the masses believing one or the other---but not this. Religion is also part of the coverup. That was the reason religion--mainly Judaism and subsequently Christianity and Islam--were invented--the old pagan Gods were ET's and the ancient texts and religions are alegories and factual depictions of our true origins.

That's right ladies and gents - the battle between the educated (evolution/modern science) and the Creationists (uneducated/Bronze Age "Science") is because we're trying to cover up our involvement with ET's. :) Phone home someone!

-Erin

Plate Tectonic FAIL

2010-08-05T09:33:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on August 3rd, 2010. Creationist(?): Eag

Eag: They [the Sumerians] knew that the earth had broken crust as continents and gave a reason for it--a clash with another planet, which is the planet the gods were supposed to have been from.

So...we have plate tectonics not because of the mantle or crust but because of running into another planet, huh? .....

-Erin

Homophobic FAIL

2010-08-03T15:38:00.001-07:00

Supplied by Dan.

There are no homophobics here, go post your propaganda and nonsense elsewhere.

Please! No one fears homosexuals, people may be disgusted or pity their mental illness and lifestyles, but hardly fear them. Ever see a bunch of homosexuals in one of their parades???? PLEASE again, fear????

They look like a bunch of perverted clowns needing to be given a shot of Thorazine...

Methinks he doesn't know what homophobia actually means and that it doesn't JUST entail being afraid of catching the gay germs. *headdesk* Thanks Dan!

-Erin

Great FAILS

2010-07-27T18:09:00.001-07:00

Howdy all.

I've seen a couple of these - but if you haven't, you need to.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t

Especially check out the series called "Why We Laugh at Creationists"

-Erin

Condensation FAIL

2010-07-20T18:01:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on July 20th. Creationist DW.

Posted in response to his thread of "how many creatures have evolved in 500 years from leaving other species". THe question he is smart assing an answer (poorly) to is "how long are you allowing for this evolution to take place?"

I am always impressed when one feels the need to speak with such condensention, it is always very informative of who the speaker really is.

Nice. Water condensing on a surface due to evaporation has nothing to do with this conversation.

-Erin

Book FAIL

2010-07-05T13:27:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on July 5th, 2010. Creationist: Bob.

Bob says that the Trinity isn't Biblical. I proved him wrong using only verses from the bible. When I confronted him, this is what he had to say:

[Mountaineer_Elf] Bob: I debunked oneness already.
[Bob] no you didnt
[Bob] you just copy and paste
[Mountaineer_Elf] Bob: I copy and pasted from the BIBLE
[Bob] elfy you didnt debunk anything at all, you just pasted some things from a book
[Mountaineer_Elf] bob: LMAO
[Mountaineer_Elf] from a book

Ha ha ha. The bible is just a book when it proves you wrong, eh?

-Erin

History FAIL

2010-06-30T17:36:00.000-07:00

Posted in the chat room at CARM on June 30th, 2010. Creationist: Shot.

Paraphrased because his argument was retarded:
"You cannot prove history happened"

-Erin

Reality FAIL

2010-06-23T18:03:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on unknown date. Creationist Dad.

NX: Reality is God's Creation

Dad: False.

Huh?!

-Erin

Slavery FAIL

2010-06-18T14:11:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on June 18th, 2010. Creationist: HE.

HE: American slavery, and Egypian Slavery -- were an abomination in the sight of God.

YEah - because the slavery in 1800's America was mentioned in the Bible.

-Erin

Dinosaur FAIL

2010-05-27T13:47:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on May 25th, 2010. Poster: North.

He made this comment in regards to something he said "dinosaurs couldn't have existed".

[North] no. thier mass and the spin of the earth would have made walking whale creatures immpossible

-Erin.

Evolution WIN!

2010-05-25T15:32:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on May 24th, 2010. Atheist: Coke.

[ChristianH] Micro Evolution, right?
[R.E.] Define "micro evolution?"
[Coke] Where Horses don't give birth to dolphins.

BRILLIANT! LOL!

-Erin

Plague FAIL

2010-05-25T12:29:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on May 24th, 2010. Christian: J

[NA]: I wonder if E. Coli will make it to heaven.

[J]: no, plagues wont make it

E-coli is a plague?

-Erin

Language FAIL

2010-05-25T11:40:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on May 24th, 2010. Creationist: RD.

[RD] a.s.d.f do youknow why and how the 'speach gene ' only stayed with the Huminoid lines and with no other animals ?

Now...I don't actually know if there's a "speech gene". But...I'm inclined to believe that there isn't any more than there's a "cursing gene" or an "accent gene".

-Erin

Saved Fail

2010-05-21T10:51:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM in the chat room on May 21st, 2010. Calvinist: Elect.

[Mountaineer_Elf] Elect: I didn't say there was I simply asked if you could kill babies and not ask forgiveness and still go to heaven, and you said yes.

[His_Elect] correct.

WHAT?!

-Erin

Monkey FAIL

2010-04-30T17:40:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 30th, 2010. Creationist: SGob

Response to a question about the similarities between chimps and humans:

When God was planning how he was going to make monkeys, He probably wanted them to have some of the same functionality that he planned to design into man. I think He probably made monkeys similar to humans in order to further delude those who do not love Him.

Yikes.

-Erin

Australia FAIL

2010-04-29T20:57:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 12th, 2010. Creationist: DC43

Original post:

What is the creationist explanation for the different types of animals ithere? Why no kangoroos in Africa? Is it adaptaion? ARe there any kangorro fossils in other places?

Answer (sarcastic and joking):

The standard explanation seems to be that all animals on the Ark had strong homing instincts and they just followed their noses home.

A slightly better explanation is that there is a Mount Ararat in Australia, and the Ark stopped there to let off some passengers. (There is an Ararat in Australia.)

Creationist interjection:

Humm,,I allways thought it was spelled, Atheistville........That's the place where the athesist cram "Don't you dare believe in God!" down the throats of their children .

Wuh?

-Erin

Reality FAIL

2010-04-23T12:52:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on April 23rd, 2010. Creationist: AV

Comment:

'So when the "so strong" belief is in direct conflict with observable reality, you think the more parsimonious conclusion is not that your belief is in error but that observable reality is wrong?'

AV's answer:

"Correct -- what kind of ambassador for my faith would I be, if I didn't believe it myself?"

So it's okay to deny observable reality as long as it's for faith? Here's hoping that you don't observe that train before it hits you because trains weren't in the Bible.

-Erin

Dinosaur FAIL!

2010-03-04T22:16:00.001-08:00

Posted at CARM on February 23rd, 2010. Creationist/the Misinformed: DJ.

Question asked:
Question to Creationists: Did Dinos exist during biblical times, or is god just messing with us?

DJ's response:
Yes. Coelacanth.

BWA HA HA HA! Coelocanth. Dinosaur. Yeah. They're totally the same.

-Erin

Fire FAIL

2009-12-01T11:24:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on December 1st, 2009. Creationist: Dad

*in reference to the topic of the KT Boundary*

Dad:

Interesting that the movie claims that all plants on the planet were wiped out. Sounds like the flood. Also, Iridium. From space and deep below the earth. Flood. Mass extinction...flood. Lots of burned trees, and stuff. Nothing about that whic wouldn't fit into a worldwide disated, in a world of wicked men!

First thought: floods set trees on fire? Well, yes, floods do cause fires. But this supposed GLOBAL flood? Without gas lines or electrical lines to bust through and cause said fire? Lol.

-Erin

Multiple FAIL

2009-11-20T16:07:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on Nov 20th, 2009. Creationist: LW.

LW:

Vesuvius was within recorded history. Fair game for anything within recorded history.

So that means you have to stop at 3000 BC and no further. Oddly, 3000 BC stops you in Mesopotamia - the cradle of civilization - where all forms of culture magically exploded in a flash of human history.

Roar:

How exactly do you think the volcano formed in the first place?

Also, cradle of civilization my ***. Go tell that to the Chinese.

LW:

the Chinese have a foreshortened history of the world. Let's see, what year is is it on the Chinese calendar? 4+ billion? I don't think so.

Roar:

The Chinese had that whole civilization bit done well before anyone did in the middle-east.

LW:

2009 marks year 4707 of the Chinese new year, putting their civilization in the 2700 BC range - but the city of Ebla (middle east, Circa 3200 BC) has them beat by half a millennia

more unfortunately for you - lists found in the 170,000-tablet library at Ebla list the same cities of the plain as found in Genesis, including Sodom and Gomorrah as trading partners.

Alas, and alas for you.

Geeze. Ignorant of how volcanoes form AND human history! And he's a public high school science teacher!

-Erin

Star of Bethlehem FAIL

2009-11-20T15:38:00.000-08:00

Posted at CARM on November 20th, 2009. Creationist: Dad.

This is his actual point of view regarding the Star of Bethlehem in the Bible.

The star of Bethlehem was not seen, or recorded by nations too far from Israel. That rules it out, far as I can tell, as being a star, in the modern sense of the word. Of course planets, and lights in the sky were called stars by the ancients.
What's left?

The flying wheels of God, mentioned in Ezekiel show us that God has a flying spaceship. It really makes good sense that the Father was there around the time of the birth of His Son.

It was apparently hovering over the area. That is why China, and other far countries didn't see it. It also guided the wise men right to a house. Nothing else fits the bill.

Mystery solved.

God's Space ship. Riiiiiight.

No, God really does have a ship that spans the universes. Including this one. It was here before this one started to exist. God was hovering over the waters (earth) right there in creation week, day 1. It is quite reasonable to assume He was in His wheels, described in Eze in some detail.

What it is called, if anything, we don't know. I call it the 'Scepter'

And they wonder why we don't take them seriously.

The ship was hovering over earth creation week, 'doing creation stuff'.

It is simply a matter of record He has flying wheels. But, as I pointed out in another post here, not merely a starship. This baby was here before the stars.

Holy crap that was classic. I hope to GOD this is a poe...but if not? Classic.

-Erin

Understanding FAIL

2009-10-15T14:59:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 15th, 2009. Creationist: Spider.

DNA:

If you have a creationist account for things like cladistics = geology = genetics or endogenous retroviruses or broken vitamin C genes, I'd love to hear them.

Spider:

Honestly, I don't know what you just said, but I'm guessing that was your point. But again, you dismiss things every day w/out knowing the details of them, so why can't I?

*gigglesnort* At least he was honest.

-Erin

Comprehension FAIL

2009-10-15T14:52:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 15th, 2009. Creationist: Spider

G:

What exactly did you think that evolution is?

Spider:

My mom had black hair. I have black hair. Whoopee.

My sister is not a frog though.

WOW! Misunderstanding to the MAX!

-Erin

Atheist WIN

2009-10-14T15:51:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 14th, 2009. Creationist: Scar. Atheist: Phro.

Scar:

come on then atheists, sell it to me

tell me exactly how my life would be happier and more satisfiying by dumping Christianity and becoming atheist

don't complain about being asked to sell it

in the real world where if you don't sell then you don't have a business and no one will give you money because you have nothing to offer anyone

so sell it, sell your atheism to a Christian

Phro:

No. We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.

BRILLIANT!

-Erin

Finale WIN

2009-10-14T15:23:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 14th, 2009. Creationist: Scar. Non-Creationist: Ghost

Scar:

Don't be fooled by the PHds, everyone knows only a small % of people describing themselves as scientists actually will contribute anything worthwhile and revoluationary to the world.

Posting thousands of stupid anti-God messages to prop up your creaky atheism is such a poor use of one's time. Go do your science, get a real job.

Ghost:

We extremely gifted scientists are perfectly capable of multi-tasking, or post here while working at our desks doing otherwise dull but necessary amounts of data analysis OR post here in our free time. Remember, your post count is far higher than many of the scientists you rail against, including me.

We have real jobs changing the world. What is it you do again? What was the subject of your postgrad study? And what was the awarding institute?

Scar:

oh really? should we present your employers with your thousands of anti-God pro-gay posts and see what they've got to say about it, all that time you've wasted on here instead of doing your science

Ghost:

As a researcher in a secular institution they would be entirely indifferent, and what they care about is my research, which is exemplary.

Scar:

well we could take the matter to a more public arena and see how the taxpayers feel about funding your "research"

Ghost:

There is no need, they benefit from it already

Scar:

"militant atheist abuses university internet to promote homosexuality and atheism - thousands of anti-God messages posted from a govt employee" nice headline, bet the taxpayers will be so proud of you and how their money gets spent.

Ghost:

Posting on messgae boards is not listed as an abuse of the university internet. Sorry to disappoint you.

Scar:

you think I'm stupid?

Ghost (for the overtime goal to win the game):

The rules of CARM forbid me to say.

WOO! The finale was worth it. Scar is SOOOOO anti science, it's not even funny. lol Well...maybe a little funny.

-Erin

Caught in a LIE!

2009-10-14T15:09:00.003-07:00

Scar caught in a lie! Too fun not to read.

It was posted that Scar had a high end degree in mathematics, and made of 35,000 lbs in just a vfew months

But...this post was found on another forum.

Scar:

Hi there
I need to know if I can claim benefits.

I ran a limited co. for the last 3 years which really did well. I employed myself at min wage and paid the rest of my profits to myself as dividends.
This meant I had lots of cash. So in this tax year I paid myself a huge amount in dividend making myself a higher rate taxpayer, and bought a flat outright with this and everything I had.

A month later, and my contracts with the ltd co. have ceased meaning I am effectively making myself redundant by not paying myself a salary anymore as I have no work to do.

I have less than £6k savings. I have about £6k left in the company that I can take as dividends. Can I claim benefits until my ltd co. gets another contract for me to work on?

Council tax in the flat is £100/month, service charge £100/month too. I have no mortgage.

I know this is cheeky but then again I have paid in lots of tax in the last 3 years when the going was good so please don't be too harsh on me

After it was brought up in his (holier than thou thread of "my mathematics degree is better than yours"), he went in and changed the thread to this.

Scar's NEW post:

So if I were to sack myself as an employee of my own companies and put all my money into properties... could I claim benefits? As then I would have less than £6k in savings thus meeting the criteria for claiming benefits.

Then denies that he ever changed it. Oh, what a tangled web we weave.

Hmmmm....Creationist lieing at its finest!

-Erin

Degree FAIL

2009-10-14T15:00:00.001-07:00

Posted at CARM on OCtober 14th, 2009. Creationist: Scar

Scar claims to be a mathematician, yet has never really said much about his degree - only that he has one and is better than everyone else because of it. Here's another famous claim that is an epic FAIL in terms of "I know you are but what am I".

Scar's OP:

I have a 1st class degree in Mathematics therefore anyone who has not achieved a 1st class degree has no credible grounds to allege that I'm more unintelligent than them since I have obtained a higher educational qualification.

Salad's reply:

BSc (Hons) 2:1 Physics (Cardiff Uni)
BSc (Hons) 1st Mathematics and Statistics (Birckbeck)

I was made unemployed earlier this year and since then I have set up my own company (running for 3 months) which has turned over just short of £35000.

you?

Scar's response:

more, so you lose
good luck however

Hmmm...printed a degree from online much?

-Erin

Religion FAIL

2009-10-13T14:15:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on OCtober 13th, 2009. Creationist(?): NR

When asked: What is an agreeable definition of Christianity? NR replied:

What Christianity is not: Is is not a religion.

*facepalm*

-Erin

Rock FAIL

2009-10-13T11:53:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 13th, 2009. Creationist: Matt Slick.

The atheists decided that the definition for atheism is, "A lack of belief in God(s)."

Okay, quesiton. Since a rock lacks belief in God(s), then isn't it an atheist?

omg...really? All people should stop giving him money. STOP SPREADING THE CANCER THAT IS IGNORANCE!

-Erin

Age FAIL

2009-10-13T11:05:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 10th, 2009. Creationist: Paul.

I read your links and I'm not convinced the Grand Canyon is older than 3500 years.

Clearly because you don't know anything about geology.

-Erin

Answer FAIL

2009-10-13T10:01:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 13th, 2009. Creationist: Evan

Roar:

How do you know that the Bible is God's word? It was compiled, recompiled, translated, rearranged, stories were removed and added, entire concepts were decided by majority's vote. After that it is translated a few more times, then interpreted subjectively in a few thousand ways.

1. How do you know that a deity authored it
2. How do you know it is accurate

Evan:

God Almighty put a conscience in man and we know what is right from wrong..

we know..we HAVE NO EXCUSE SIR, NO EXCUSE TO NOT BELIEVE GOD'S WORD

JUST LIKE ADAM AND EVE HAD NO EXCUSE

SO U GO AND TELL YOUR SAD SONGS TO SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES THEM

THIS PREACHER KNOWS BETTER

Roar:

You again avoid the question entirely.

I'm not interested in your views on morality, they are entirely beside the point here.

I asked you, twice now : How do you know the Bible is God's word?

1. How do you know that a deity authored it
2. How do you know it is accurate

Are you unable to answer these simple questions about your beliefs? Is all you can do scream with capslock?

Evan:

You know it is God's Word just like you know there is a God,and that He is your Creator,you have that knowledge in you,you just choose not to believe and obey Him..you have no excuse sir, none!

Good God man. This screams "I don't know I just do it because I've been told! I can't think for myself so stop asking!"

-Erin

Cephalus FAIL

2009-10-13T09:44:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 13th, 2009. Creationist: Sport

Evos like to claim that human heads have changed over the eons because the "head genes" have accidentally mutated.

Those darn head genes! Always giving me the aches. Zero evidence was presented by the way of these so called evo's saying this.

-Erin

Deity FAIL

2009-10-12T21:24:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 12th, 2009. Creationists: Scar and Matt Slick.

Scar posted:

Time to stop comparing the Christian God with such things as Santa Claus, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and the Tooth Fairy, as those aren't even accurate comparisons. (paraphrased)

Roar's comment:

Fine, then let's pick some ones with did and do have comparative beliefs. Allah. Vishnu. Buddha. Thor. Zeus. The Fates. Apotamkin. Odin. Atlas. Loki. Ares. Cronus. Uranus. Hathor. Ra. Chaos. Eros. There's plenty of stuff to compare it to beyond the obvious ones.

Matt Slick's Response:

atheism... Allah. Vishnu. Buddha. Thor. Zeus. The Fates. Apotamkin. Odin. Atlas. Loki. Ares. Cronus. Uranus. Hathor. Ra. Chaos. Eros.

Atheism isn't a deity. Moron!

-Erin

Tyranny WIN

2009-10-12T21:08:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 12th, 2009. Creationist: Matt Slick.

Matt Slick:

slime becomes people walking upright and going to the moon. All you need is time and accidents...talk about fairy tales and make believe!

Genius:

I thought the purpose of apologetics was to make Christianity look less ridiculous. It seems if you want to achieve this, you best take a science class or two and learn something about actual evolutionary theory instead of using a blatant strawman like that.

Matt Slick:

insulting comment. banned for a week.

WOW! What a blatant win for tyranny and oppression! GO HITLER!

-Erin

Reproductive FAIL

2009-10-12T21:04:00.000-07:00

Posted at CARM on October 12th, 2009. Creationist: Spider.

Comment:

It doesn't make sense to have a woman created from a bone.

Spider's best response:

Adam didn't have eggs.

Wow really? We've got an Einstein here folks!!

-Erin